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Old 09-17-2022, 03:35 PM
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Hi Tins,

My advice is to have an open and honest conversation with your wife. She might amaze you. She might be thinking what you're thinking.

My fiancee have open, honest, and nonjudgmental conversations about everything including sex. Our honesty with each other has strengthened the bond that unites us. We've had open and graphic conversations about sex. Our sex conversations increased the intensity of love we have for each other.

BTW, my fiancee was married to a man she could not trust with knowledge of her sexuality and fantasies. She's told me more than once that she'll never be in a relationship if she's fearful of openly and honestly discussing sex.
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Old 09-18-2022, 10:20 AM
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Nina: For the most part, the day spa type of place women go to are different than the type men fantasize about.
They tell you to undress to your comfort level and get on the bed, under the sheets. They leave the room. they don't stand there and watch you undress. After a few minutes they'll knock on the door before entering.
They will rearrange the sheet according to the area they're working on at the time.
When it's time for you to turn over, they'll hold the sheet up, usually in front of themselves and then drape it over you again.
I'd say the ratio of men to women who have given me massages is about 1:20 (at a day spa) and of those men, I'm pretty sure most of them have played for the other team.
On vacation, when I've gotten massages it's about 50/50 male to female but at the time I made the appointment, they've always asked if I had a preference or if I was OK with a man doing it.
On the beach, you're usually in a "tent" type structure. I usually leave my bikini bottoms on but take my top off. They usually put a folded-up towel across my boobs.
If the towel slips off during the massage, I tell them to "just leave it". (They've seen them, nothing gained by covering them again)
I guess everyone has their own idea of what "going too far" is. I've had them touch me everywhere but my nipples. It's kind of weird. They put oil on their hands and rub/massage my breasts up to and including the areolae but never actually touch my nipples.
Same thing down below. They get as close as they can, pushing my bikini bottom to the side, without ever touching my labia or clitoris.
I've got to admit, there have been a few times when I wanted to grab his hand and put it where I want it.

Day spa massages never go that far.
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Old 09-18-2022, 11:21 AM
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Holy cow!!! Mrs.fister and I were just talking about going to Aruba next year and she said she wants a full body massage. I kidding around said “happy ending “ and she said she’d let that happen, she said she was serious, she said she would let the person finger her and massage her tits but she wouldn’t let a guy fuck her or suck his dick it’s all about her.if it was a woman doing her same thing just about her. No how do I make it happen?
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Old 09-19-2022, 09:51 AM
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Now how do I make it happen?
Most of the ones who work for the resorts won't risk their jobs just to finger your wife.
If you can find one on the beach with one of those tents, you might have better luck.
Talk to him (if you can find a male one) ahead of time and let him know what she'd like and how far she's willing to let him go.
have your wife take off everything and when it's time for her to turn over, onto her back, slide the sheet off of her.
You might have to get the ball rolling by using your hand on her or have her take his hand and put it where she wants it.
Tip extremely generously.
Would she be willing to let him watch her suck you off while he's doing it?
Women's plumbing can be very sensitive. Make sure you know what type of oil he has on his hands before he starts inserting his fingers in her.
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Old 09-19-2022, 02:48 PM
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Most of the ones who work for the resorts won't risk their jobs just to finger your wife.

Women's plumbing can be very sensitive. Make sure you know what type of oil he has on his hands before he starts inserting his fingers in her.
Hi kjs1961,

I agree with you 100%. Service providers at resorts are generally very well paid in salary and especially tips. They won't risk their jobs and possible arrest for inappropriately touching clients.

Your oil recommendation is right on the mark. Women are careful to avoid skin products that contain alcohol-based fragrances because alcohol dries their skin. My fiancee uses nothing on her skin that contains alcohol.

My fiancee's former boyfriend is a physician. He's not a dermatologist. He does know a lot about skin. When my fiancee began dating him, she asked him if he wanted her to go full Brazilian. He replied definitely not. He explained to her in layman's terms (not medical terminology) why humans grow hair. Hair is our bodies first defense against pathogens. He told her that her bush kept pathogens from entering her vagina. He told her that her bush kept her pussy cleaner than Brazilian. He told her about medical risks to her vaginal area caused by full Brazilian.

He used only KY Jelly on my fiancee, mostly for tit fucking. He told me to use only KY Jelly on her. It doesn't contain alcohol and has no taste. She sucked his KY Jelly covered cock without a foreign taste that might have been harmful. He used another lubricant that physicians use for anal exams when he had anal sex with her.

Her former boyfriend always had bottles of KY Jelly on his nightstand, mostly for tit fucking.

A husband does not have to take his wife to a masseuse to get her laid. Last Saturday evening, I watched my fiancee talking to friends and regulars at our regular sports bar. If she wanted to get laid, she could have within minutes.
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Old 09-20-2022, 08:53 AM
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Why don't you give her a massage, i found u get a naked woman on her belly with a little oil and massage her working ur way slowly down her ass and legs an back up it turns them on and you have some of the best sex ever , of course sloppy seconds is a good turn on but i prefer to whatch her get fucked first
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Old 09-21-2022, 08:29 AM
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mr. fister,

Within the first few dates with the woman who's now my fiancee, we created an ambiance that nurtured, open, honest, and nonjudgmental sexual communication. We were mature and both of us were divorced. Both of us were sexually experienced. We never played games. We knew mind-blowing sex before we met each other. We were completely comfortable telling each other what we liked and didn't about sex.

This might not work for you mr. fister, but I learned a lot about my fiancee's sexuality by watching porn with her. If she was half-looped or better, she'd spontaneously comment about a sex act that she saw performed by porn actors. I'd watch her watching porn to see what excited her. It was a no-brainer that she liked big dicks. She'd routinely comment about porn actors' dicks. I can remember a white woman giving a black dude with a huge cock a sensual hand job. My fiancee watched the scene intently and spontaneously said, "I'd want to sit on it [his massive cock]." She watched an anal sex scene and said it wasn't reality because the guy didn't prep the actresses ass prior to penetration. That scene prompted my fiancee to explain her anal sex experiences. I watched her eyes glued to MFM sex scenes and pussy eating scenes.

Watching porn with her stimulated many, many enlightening conversations about sex, her sexuality, her sexual fantasies, and what she'd like to experience. During one of our first porn sessions after an evening of partying, she sincerely, honestly, and with resolute confidence told me she would have become a porn actress while she was in college. The only reason she didn't pursue a career as a porn actress was her fear that her parents found out. She told me that she loved sex so much that she would have become a porn actress.

mr. fister, stay alert for situations during which your wife might reveal her honest sexual desires and fantasies. Try a porn session with her. Watch her while she watches porn. Her reactions to what she sees could be clues about her true sexuality, sexual fantasies, and sexual desires.
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