I would love some help

[Justthewayweare]

Thanks for joining in aspanrt. I feel your frustration. I have a good question for the women here. It seems that females must reach a certain point before they are able to play and act as they do when entering a relationship or when drunk. Can any females tell us what that point is? Or how we can help our wives reach that point?

[gd2bseen]

just had to say somthing, I feel your hurt, or better to say felt, I was married for over 30 yrs,
for more than 15 she would not have sex of any kind with me,
we had kids I stayed to see them grow with a mom and dad, she always acused me of cheating (never did)( should have lol), anyway I often travell , came home found the house cleaned out her gone!!!
a few years ago I got chatting with a gal on line , we hit it off great,
wow she turned out to be 23 yrs younger than me ooops, we decided we should stop before we got to serious,,,, but we could not stop talking to each other,
We have been together now for 5yrs still feel the fire the other has for each other
don't know where my x is have never been able to find her , she turned my kids and grankids against me , and none will talk to me anymore,
bottom line "light at the end of the tunnel"
hope it works out for you it did for me

[maxback]

After 5 year flirting i was married with my present wife 15 years ago. During flirting and first years of marriage our sex life was perfect without any fantasy. i was so jealous of her and it was disgusting to share her and condemned the concerned people in my mind. but approximately 6-7 seven years ago, maybe with the help of web, i started to feel interest to swinging and threesome etc. Whispering fantasies during sex turned into chatting with couples on internet. Then we came to the verge of real swinger sex with one couple from another city. On that day before traveling we had a big quarrel somehow. i now think that it was probably my envy. after that event our sex life has gone from bad to bad. We ceased to talk about swinging and anything about sex. my sexuel acts reminiscent of swinging ,which also made her horny, have kept going in bed but without talking. in every sexuel intercourse my acts have been evocative of sharing her and this disturbed her. she has complained of not having sex without any fantasy and felt that i loosed my love to her. motherhood and her intense business life have contributed her to get cold about sex. And for the first time we haven't made sex for about 3 mounts till 3 days ago. and what i know now is comminication is essential what i couldn't have carried out. Recently i made up my mind and talked this issue with her. i said 'don't have any fear about sex because i have no desire for you anymore. but i am a horny guy interesting with group sex and please give me permission to have relation with others'. and also said the truth that i was chatting with some married couples. she accepted unreluctantly and asked not to know about it. and at that night she made a hot sex with me she tried making acts reminiscent of threesome but i refused i think she begin to get ease with her sexuel problems.
i dont know what will happen from now on...

[buttluvr]

Your story is a mirror of my own. My wife and I had great sex for years then all of a sudden it was less and less till we were down to nothing. We talked and talked and finally she would try for a couple weeks, but then right back where we were. This went on for years. Then she had some medical problems and sex is pretty much out of the picture. But That shouldn't exclude ALL types of sex. But it does. I find my wife hot and desirable, but she has no interest at all. so, Like you. i've been a 'lurker' here for awhile. enjoying the pics and once in awhile chatting. have even met with a women once but we hit it off more as friends,so we've stayed that way. So, as for me, i'll keep lurking around and imagining my wife as I look at and read everyones fun and games. Ijust keep hoping and waiting.
Later Bro.

[Justthewayweare]

Thanks for the input guys. You know you would think that we as humans would have evolved sexually better by now. I see and know how this all feels and how it must look from the outside looking in. Like we just want this one thing sex. I want a partner that is with me in every way, a friend... I honestly think that this site and what it promotes is partly the key to a happy marriage. It brings both parties to a place where their physical and mental selves are stimulated together. That is honestly what we all want, thats what we are all living for. We don't live for depression or boredom.
Anyways. My weekend went well, we did have sex Saturday and it was great. Leading up to it was ruff though. I want to talk about it and feel more comfortable. I want to know thats where she wants to be, but she is scared I know. One day at a time.

[lavish the orbit]

wow - what's with the women who walk the line? - mine too. I've tried many times over the course of months to try and talk about flirtations, potential experiences, fantasies and in doing so being extremely open with each other - we've had discussions spanning over months about what including others might mean (mff?, mfm?, mfmf? same room sex, video camming, all of it.) - we had pretty open dialog for months though at times was raw and unnerving, yet it was often as close to pure, honest confessional conversations(s) as I/we ever had - after time and lots of emotions at stake, I think we just got tired of the intensity of these topics - it was becoming really heavy and a little exhausting. At times we unraveled. We cammed once, i liked it more than she did even though it was just some guy from eastern europe stroking himself to us. she thought having the computer there was disengaging. Then one crazy night at a bar some stranger chatted us up and after too many beers we all left together with the intent of a mmf - he was bold. I know this will surprise you all but I put on the brakes and stopped it - we were just not ready for this at that point to make it a 100% positive experience ~ mostly referring to after...the next morning and sober.. and I knew it (i will spare you the nuances of this calculated decision; plus he was less than satisfactory in my opinion and that was enough for me). It was these incidents that occurred during the period of time that we were talking and deliberating the most - about 2-4 months ago. We are no longer talking about these things, we no longer talk about our sex - we just do it - I don't know if it is healthy, it is just where we are currently at. We have great sex, it is usually very powerful, very exciting - sometimes it is tender and conservative, sometimes we respectively push the envelope.
...So this weekend, we had a small dinner party and by 2am, everyone is well drunk, she is sitting at the table feeling up her best friends tits (low cut blouse with massive amounts of glorious cleavage showing) and telling one of her old guy friends sitting across from her what is so special about her friends tits and even instructing him to help and to feel - yeah, right? - then she pulls up an app on her phone and instructs everyone into the living room tackling one of the other guys and putting her foot in his crotch - i knew what game she had in mind. It's called 'have you ever/would you ever' - its an adult sex game and it is one only we have played in the past; every time the game led to sloppy, crazy, bed slammin sex so i was surprised she was at once willing to play this game with friends that she had only known platonically since Junior high and that she was willing to reveal she has a dirty sex game on her phone. Well, it didnt lead to an orgy, far from it, actually one of the guys left early on and we all eventully sort all felt awkward and went to bed (read: crawled to wherever we were sleeping and passed out). Here she was, the one who, in the past, ultimately ended up making me feel like a ruthless perve as she insisted i was careless because i expressed my greater willingness in the possibilty to include others compared to her more reserved willingness in including others (she maintained she just wants to keep fanatasies as fantasies - and yes, these include 'fantasy' others). ...and here she was - pushing the limits further than i ever had. huh. This is just the reason why you shouldn't try and figure this catch 22 out because it just doesn't add-up from the male point of view. Sure, I can't help it, I am giving it some thought and I wonder if and how I should press the issue but based on everything up until now, i am currently gun shy and just feel like I should roll with it, not make a big deal out of it by talking about it and see what happens down the line.

[burllleee]

Very interesting Lavish.
Please keep posting, thanks

[thesunshining]

Hi, today is a beautiful day in my life. I saw a first snow in this year and I save this photo for all people in the World!

[teacherdavid]

Don't blame yourself. Your wife controls her own feelings and if she can't or won't open up with you it's her fault if things go south between you. Before I was married, many years ago, I had a LTR that was heading in the same direction. I needed to have some revenge on the bitch that was causing me so much pain. I bought some good-quality pills, crushed them into powder, and put them in the bitch's wine. After an hour or so she was still awake, but limp and pliable. I had arranged for a couple of guys I was talking to on CraigsList to come to our apartment at the right time. The fear and embarrassment in her eyes was delicious as I had the boys take her to the bedroom and undress her. They took turns fucking her as I took pictures and whispered in her ear what a slut she was. They left about two hours later and she was full of their cum. I took my turn then and loved the feeling of cumming in her cum-filled pussy. When I was done I pushed my two fingers into her cunt and took out a load of cum, a mixture of all three of us, and I force fed it to her. I knew we were through as a couple so I packed my stuff and left that night. But the great memories were worth it. I still saw her around town and once she threatened to tell about that night until I reminded her that I had about 40 pictures of her fucking two strangers. Then she shut up. Now she's married with 2 kids and I would love to show the pictures to her white-bread husband, and she knows it. It's like I own the bitch.

[burllleee]

Next time you see her, tell her you are going to show the pics to her hubby if she doesn't fuck you or give you a blowjob David
Please keep posting, thanks