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Old 09-14-2022, 02:47 PM
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Every time I start writing, I get a damned call that I gotta take. So I' try this a paragraph or two at a time.

My fiancee told me that I'm not assertive. She's picked all three guys we've done MFM sex with though covid shutdowns. She's asked me why I haven't brought a friend how for her to enjoy. I was worried because she might not be in a MFM sex mood or she might reject him. That would be uncomfortable for everyone. So I've followed her lead. She told me that she should be following my lead. She promised that she'll do anything I tell her to do. That is exactly how she put it. She wants me to tell her what I want her to do.

My fiancee is the most sexually experienced woman I have ever been with. She has unbelievable sexual confidence. By our third date or thereabout she told me that sex and nudity are normal and natural. She did clarify that nudity is not always sexual.

My fiancee will reminisce about her college years more that any other era of her life. She had a lot of fun in college. She matured intellectually and emotionally during her college years. She sexually blossomed during her college years. She learned a lot about sex during her college years. She had a lot of sex during her four years of college.

Last Saturday night I put my fiancee to the test.

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Old 09-15-2022, 11:43 AM
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Bringing home another guy, unannounced might not go well.
I usually let Nina pick the third as she's the one who's going to be fucking/sucking him.
She has to feel the attraction.
My pleasure is in watching her enjoy herself.

Even when the third is another woman, Nina usually picks her out.
I want her to be comfortable with who she sees me with, and I trust her to know my likes and dislikes enough to make a good choice.
If I do find someone I think she'd like to play with, I'll call her first and ask if she's up for some company.
She might ask if it's male or female company but other than that, she trust my decision making, but I would never just show up at home and expect her to have sex with the person I brought home.
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Bringing home another guy, unannounced might not go well.
I usually let Nina pick the third as she's the one who's going to be fucking/sucking him.
She has to feel the attraction.
My pleasure is in watching her enjoy herself.

Even when the third is another woman, Nina usually picks her out.
I want her to be comfortable with who she sees me with, and I trust her to know my likes and dislikes enough to make a good choice.
If I do find someone I think she'd like to play with, I'll call her first and ask if she's up for some company.
She might ask if it's male or female company but other than that, she trust my decision making, but I would never just show up at home and expect her to have sex with the person I brought home.
Hi KJS1961,

I completely agree. It would be awkward if I were to bring home a dude with him thinking he's going to get laid only to be rejected.

My fiancee had MFM sex experience before I met her. I never did. She introduced me to it. She was right. It was better than watching porn.

I'm in love with my fiancee for a lot of reasons besides her naughty, kinky, and nasty sexuality.
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Old 09-15-2022, 07:44 PM
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I can get my fiancee hornier than hell by getting her to reminisce about her college years. She had the most fun of her life during her four years of college. I know the names of guys she had most fun with during her college years. If she's looped or close to it and I ask her a non-sex question about one of her college boyfriends, she'll give voice to her memories. She'll crave sex when she talks about sex she had with many of her college boyfriends.

Last week, my fiancee's former boyfriend invited us to a retirement party for one of the physicians in his medical building. The party was at another physician's home. My fiancee knew the host from when she dated her boyfriend. She had been to his home a few times. She told me that I'd like him. He's humble and down to earth. He doesn't put on airs. She called him by his first name.

It was hot and humid in So Cal last Sat. My fiancee will usually wear shorts on hot days with a loose fitting blouse or t-shirt. When I picked her up, she was wearing a mid-thigh skirt, a somewhat shear blouse that revealed the shape of her large, natural tits, and sandals. I can look at my fiancee's face and know whether she's horny. She did not have her usual horny look. She complained about the heat and humidity. On the way, she told me that she wished she didn't RSVP the party. She knew the retiring physician through her former boyfriend, but they never socialized.

My fiancee's mood immediately improved when we arrived at the party. Her former boyfriend hugged her and handed her a glass of wine. Within 10 minutes, he handed her another one. I watched my fiancee mingle among the guests and hug old friends. She knew many that she hadn't seen since she dated her former boyfriend. She had four glasses of wine within an hour. I had a few beers. I knew that I had to drive home.

I sat in a comfortable chair that was against a wall. I was tired from heat, humidity, and work. The kitchen was on the other side of the wall. I watched my fiancee mingle among guests. She was enjoying herself. I always encourage to enjoy herself. She has too much stress in her life. He ex-husband pisses her off for no other reason than to piss her off.

I watched her walk through the open back slider to backyard patio. I knew there was a pool in the backyard, but I didn't see it. I thought that if anyone skinny dipped, she would be the first one naked and in the pool. But she didn't.

About every twenty minutes, my fiancee would return to me and talk with me. I could see that she was working on getting fully looped. She'd kiss me and take off again. She'd be back about twenty minutes later. Around 11:00 pm, she came back to me, sat on my right leg, put her left arm around my shoulder, and looked at me while talking to me. She told me she was having the most fun she's had in a long time. She was obviously looped. I asked her if the party was as fun as college parties she attended. She looked into my eyes, nodded her head as she swallowed wine, and said, "Oh yeah, way more fun." She took off again to mingle and talk with people she hadn't seen in years.

About a half-hour later, she came back to me. I asked her why that party was more fun than college parties she attended. She explained that it was enjoyable to see people she hadn't seen in years. I asked her to imagine she was at a college party and horny. I asked her if she were at a college party and horny, who she'd pick to fuck. She thought for a second then pointed to the staircase and said, "That guy over there," except he was no longer there.

I asked my fiancee why she'd fuck him. She told me that he was very good looking, athletic, humble, a good listener, and knew how to talk to women. She told me that he was a physician at the same office as her former boyfriend. She never saw him before. He was five years younger than my fiancee.

My fiancee told me that she knew the house we were in. I told her that I wanted her to find him, seduce him, and fuck him. She gave me a startled look because I was finally assertive. She said, "Sure," grabbed another glass of wine, and disappeared.

Close to an hour later, she stood in front of me. She looked worried. She also had the look of just getting her brains fucked out. She told me that we had to leave. She left no room for doubt. She wanted to leave right then.

My fiancee was silent for about the first five minutes after we began driving to my home. I broke he silence by asking her what happened.

She found him. They went to the master bathroom and locked the door. They were intensely physically attracted to each other. He undressed her while kissing her. She pulled off her skirt and panties. She was worried because he had his clothes on. She told him to take off his pants. He did. She got on her knees and sucked his cock. He came quickly. I asked her if she swallowed. She asked, "What do you think?" I knew she did. She thought it was over. He took off his shirt. He lifted her onto the sink counter. He knelt between her legs and worked two orgasms out of her clit with his mouth and tongue. She told me that he knew how to perform oral sex on women. At his age, he should. He told her that her moans were too loud.

He pulled her from the counter and kissed her. He told her to stroke his cock. She felt it getting hard in her hand. After she got him hard, her turned her around to face the mirror bent her over the counter, and fucked her from behind. She told me that he knew how to fuck. He fucked her hard and rough. She told him that he could cum inside of her because her tubes were tied. He did. As soon as he pulled his cock out of her they heard someone enter then master bedroom. The master bathroom light was one. They heard someone try to open the bathroom door. He motioned to her with his finger over his lips that told her to stay quiet. He made a throat clearing sound to tell whoever was trying to use the master bathroom that it was occupied.

They quietly got dressed. She said he was a gentleman. She was drunk. He helped her get dressed. They couldn't find her panties. She wanted them to catch his cum as it dripped from her pussy. She finally told him to forget about them. When they thought it was safe, they quietly opened the bathroom door. They quietly walked to the bedroom door. He slowly opened it. He grabbed her by the hand and pulled her out of the bedroom and right in front of a woman who was leaning against the far wall of the hallway. My fiancee recognized her, but she didn't know her. My fiancee told me that she obviously knew what they were doing in the master bathroom which why she wanted to leave.

I asked her how it compared to college parties. She instantly replied that it was way better. I asked her why. She said that college guys bailed on her after she gave them blow jobs. That guy was a complete gentleman. After she gave him a blowjob, he took care of her. She told me that he knew how to have mutually enjoyable sex. She said he was an excellent fuck.

We sat in silence while I drove to my home. She was thinking about how she'd explain what she did. Finally I told her to relax. That woman wasn't going to say anything to anyone. She could only guess what they did. She did not know what they did.

A few minutes later she thanked me. I asked her why she thanked me. She said she felt like a teenager again. She was impressed that I seized the initiative and told her what I wanted her to do. She wanted to fuck him more than I wanted to see if she really meant it when she told me that she'd do anything I told her to do.

After we got to my house, she showered, laid on my bed and was sound asleep within a minute. He got a blowjob and laid. I got to fall asleep next to my drunk and exhausted fiancee.

The following morning my fiancee told me she would never do anything like that if I weren't close by. I told her that I'd have to be close by if I were to tell her to have sex with someone she just met.

Our May '19 wedding date that was covid cancelled cost us well over ten grand in lost money. We've talked about doing a Vegas wedding. She doesn't want to piss off her relatives. Her son started hating me when he got into high school. He hates me because he thinks I'm banging his mom. His mom's sex life is none of his fucking business. He thinks it is. I can wait until he's 18. He will not move into my home. I will not live with her with him under the same roof. I can wait until he's 18. Her fucked up ex will not let their son live with him because he knows it pisses her off.
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Old 09-17-2022, 04:12 PM
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My fiancee awoke last Sunday morning hornier than hell. We fucked before and after breakfast.

Her memory was more clear. She loved that I was assertive. She told me again that she wants to follow my lead. Before last Saturday, I followed her lead.

She couldn't remember the guy's name. She did remember that he's a physician with an office in the same medical building as her former boyfriend's office. She didn't know if he was married. He never asked her about her relationship status.

They were instantly physically attracted to each other. It was easy for her to seduce him.

He was a gentleman. She expected their interlude to be over after she gave him a blowjob. She was wrong. After he came, he got naked, he pulled her from the counter to him where they began kissing passionately again while she stoked his cock hard again. He turned her around to face a mirror, bent her over the counted, and fucked her brains out. She remembered telling him that her tubes were tied, and he could cum inside her. He did.

My fiancee gave college party blowjobs. Guys bailed after they came. I regret to write that I did the same thing after getting college party blowjobs. She expected him to bail. She was happy he didn't. He treated her respectfully. She told him about her former boyfriend. He knows my fiancee's former boyfriend. That might have been the reason he treated her respectfully. Or he might have been a gentleman by disposition.

After he came, he helped her search for her panties. He could've gotten dressed and left her to search for her panties. He helped her search for them. When she accepted that it wasn't worth wasting time looking for them, he help her get dressed. She was drunk and needed help.

She was sober and thinking rationally on Sunday morning. She blew off the woman who saw them leave the master bedroom. She didn't think she'd tell anyone. She didn't care if she did. She didn't see anything. Anything she might say would be a guess.

My fiancee felt like she was in college at a college party. She was glad that I was in the same home. I'm her reassurance. She knows that if she needs me to rescue her from a bad situation, I'll be there within heartbeats.

She promised again to never engage in any sexual activity without me and my prior approval.

I told her that I enjoyed the experience. I didn't get wood until I saw the "I just got my brains banged out" look on her face. I was worried that she'd get caught. That would have been difficult to explain. I would have gone with her being drunk and not knowing what she did.

I told her that I expected her to fuck my brains out after she got out of the shower. She apologized. She was too drunk and exhausted. She fell asleep within a minute of lying on my bed.

Now that I know that she was serious when she repeatedly emphasized that she'll do anything I tell her to do, I'm thinking an evening poker party at my house with a few friends could be interesting. My fiancee would be a perfect naked cocktail waitress.
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I like assertive men. Confident, intelligent, humorous men who know what they want and aren't afraid to go for it. I think most women are like me and after 5 to 10 minutes of conversation they know whether or not there's a strong possibility they'd have sex with them. There is a balance of being assertive and not overly aggressive physically however when meeting me for the first time. I love all things sexual and certainly don't mind doing whatever a man wants, but I don't want to be raped. I do admit there are men I've met and been very attracted to and they've had their cock in me before 10 minutes are up. But that is a rare happening. As for threesomes planned or not, if in the right mood I, do it on the first date. At times I really enjoy more than one cock.

Now my husband and I have a D/s relationship, I'm his sub. I fuck who he wants, whenever he wants, anytime he chooses. Now, I've given him permission to have that kind of control over me. I like being submissive for him, it heightens the erotic experience for me. Do we live like that every day? No. But when he asks me to do something I immediately respond if at all possible. Has he surprised me by bringing home someone for me to have sex with? Yes, many times. He knows me well however and he's never really made me have sex that I didn't thoroughly enjoy. We also have an open marriage and I am allowed to date and see others although it's always with his permission. He's also a much better judge of people than I am. I've made a couple of bad choices, he never seems to. So yes. I like Dominant, assertive men. A man who treats me right will be pleased.

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Old 09-22-2022, 09:36 AM
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I like assertive men. Confident, intelligent, humorous men who know what they want and aren't afraid to go for it.
True. Sadly too many men confuse confidence and assertive with arrogant and pushy.


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I think most women are like me and after 5 to 10 minutes of conversation they know whether or not there's a strong possibility they'd have sex with them.
Agree for the most part but there have been men I've become attracted to over time.
All the guys in the forums (here and other sites) who ask those "what do you think of my dick" questions, (is it too small, circumcised or uncircumcised, Etc don't realize that in 90% of cases, I've made up my mind to have or not have sex with them before any clothes have started to come off.

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I love all things sexual and certainly don't mind doing whatever a man wants, but I don't want to be raped.
Having been, I can tell you there's nothing erotic about it. When I read a post by a woman who has a "rape" fantasy, I tell them they have a rough sex fantasy. There's no "safe word" in rape.

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I do admit there are men I've met and been very attracted to and they've had their cock in me before 10 minutes are up.
There have been a few times when waiting 10 minutes would have ruined the moment but for the most part, if it's just sex I'm looking for, why dilly dally?
"I can't do that. We've only just met. He won't respect me." So, waiting until the 2nd date to blow him in the men's room will make him respect you?

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As for threesomes planned or not, if in the right mood I, do it on the first date. At times I really enjoy more than one cock.
Most of the threesomes (and moresomes) I've been involved with haven't been planned. There are times, if we're having certain friends over that it's understood what the party will evolve into to but I don't think anyone says "Hey! Let's invite these three other couples over and have sex."
Even the first time it happened. If Kevin had said "This weekend, we're going to stay at my friend's house in the town I grew up in. On Saturday the plan is for him and his girlfriend to start fooling around on one side of the room and we start fooling around too, until you're sitting astride me, riding my dick. When his girlfriend passes out drunk, he's going to come over and offer you his dick to suck and you'll do it."
I would have told him he was out of his fucking mind if he thought I was going to blow his childhood best friend.
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I like assertive men. Confident, intelligent, humorous men who know what they want and aren't afraid to go for it. I think most women are like me and after 5 to 10 minutes of conversation they know whether or not there's a strong possibility they'd have sex with them. There is a balance of being assertive and not overly aggressive physically however when meeting me for the first time. I love all things sexual and certainly don't mind doing whatever a man wants, but I don't want to be raped. I do admit there are men I've met and been very attracted to and they've had their cock in me before 10 minutes are up. But that is a rare happening. As for threesomes planned or not, if in the right mood I, do it on the first date. At times I really enjoy more than one cock.

Now my husband and I have a D/s relationship, I'm his sub. I fuck who he wants, whenever he wants, anytime he chooses. Now, I've given him permission to have that kind of control over me. I like being submissive for him, it heightens the erotic experience for me. Do we live like that every day? No. But when he asks me to do something I immediately respond if at all possible. Has he surprised me by bringing home someone for me to have sex with? Yes, many times. He knows me well however and he's never really made me have sex that I didn't thoroughly enjoy. We also have an open marriage and I am allowed to date and see others although it's always with his permission. He's also a much better judge of people than I am. I've made a couple of bad choices, he never seems to. So yes. I like Dominant, assertive men. A man who treats me right will be pleased. j
Hi num1scamp,

You and I think identically. Women are attracted to self-confident and self-assured men. I have been too careful with my fiancee. She was sexually traumatized by her ex-husband. She used to often talk about misery she endured during her sex-deprived marriage. To this day, her ex-husband stresses her out and manipulates her with cheap threats of taking her back to court. Hence, I have followed her comfort level. And until I met my fiancee, I had no experience with what I describe as adventurous sex. She initiated me to the erotic world of sex beyond confines of social norms.

I can hear my fiancee's voice telling me that the only thing that separates her from most women is she's honest about her sexuality. She's told me a million times that she'll never be in another relationship with a man who doesn't have her love and passion for sex.

Women know within ten minutes whether they'll fuck a guy. I've known that since I was in college. Hence, the importance of first impressions.

Women think about sex more often than men. They have more sexual fantasies than men. They're sexually more complex than men. They get far more pleasure out of sex than men. Women in their sexual primes are always horny. My fiancee can fuck many times a day every day. Her orgasms are far more intense than mine.There are no limits to the number of orgasms she can have.

My fiancee is sexually submissive. Most women are. I can't remember being with a sexually dominant woman. My fiancee loves rough, hard sex. That was a huge issue with her ex-husband. He was naive about women's sexuality. My fiancee wants to be manhandled. I have her on video telling me to manhandle her. She loves being a bedroom porn star.

My fiancee is 100% feminine. She loves to fuck. Like most women, she is curious about having sex with a woman. But she loves to be dominated by men. She and other women have told me that most men don't know how to fuck women. Women aren't fragile. They will not break. Bend them over and fuck their brains out. But always treat them like royalty.

Most women love to exploit their feminine power over men. My fiancee is one such woman. She learned at a young age the power her naked body had over men. She used to enjoy getting naked in front of her college boyfriends and FWBs to see their reactions. She loves to be craved by men. She appreciates men checking her out but not gawking. She knows that when she's naked it's natural for men to check out her naked body. She's good with it. She's told me that she'd be worried if men didn't check out her naked body.

Most women have naughty, nasty, and kinky facets of their sexuality. It's men's responsibility to create comfort necessary for them to release their primal sexual desires.

I've known since the dating phase of my relationship with my fiancee that she has the common and normal female sexual fantasy of stranger sex. She's told me while she was relieving stress in nightclubs (drinking) during the dating phase of our relationship about men she wanted to seduce and fuck. I can watch her check out men in restaurants, nightclubs, parties, bars, etc and know precisely what she's thinking.

The party was a perfect opportunity for me to get assertive with my fiancee. If another perfect opportunity arises, I'll get assertive again. My fiancee loved it. She talked about it for days. It helped that he was a gentleman. She was surprised that he went down on her and sucked and licked two orgasms from her clit. Most men would have fucked her with no concern for her sexual desires.

The dominant problem my fiancee and I face is the control her ex-husband has over her life. He has her scared shitless to do even short vacations. He has threatened to take her back to court if one of her kids gets in normal teenage trouble. I know it's an idle threat. She does, too, but the fear of the slight chance that he'll act on his cheap threats forces her to be overly cautious. Fortunately, she does have friends she trusts to keep an eye on her kids.

My fiancee's neighbor/handyman has been a huge help. He's 27. He's a college graduate without decent job prospects. They became very close friends after she hired him to do chores as an excuse to give him money. He used to be at her house almost every day. It's still very common for him to be at my fiancee's house. He knows that she has bent over backwards to help him when he needed money. It wasn't long before they engaged in very graphic sexual conversations. He is a handsome kid, but he's was shy. My fiancee helped him to break out of his shell. She was and still is comfortable naked with him. He was used to seeing my fiancee either naked or virtually naked within a couple weeks. After close to a year, she bought him to my house and taught him how to have sex with a woman. He has been a very good friend to her. If her kids are not at their father's house for weekends and she wants to spend the night at my house, he'll stay the night at her house to keep an eye on her kids.

I know my fiancee's sexuality. I know what she likes and what she doesn't like, and there's nothing about sex she doesn't like except the idea of surreptitious video recording of her naked and engaging in sex. I know her stranger sex fantasy. I now know that she wants me to arrange her stranger sexual encounters.

My fiancee is by a huge margin the best sex I have ever had. But our deep love for each other is not based on the intense physical euphoria we create. We are each other's best friend.

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Old 09-22-2022, 06:23 PM
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Based on my personal experiences with women, and num1scamp's input would be appreciated, what women have told me, and what I've read, women are at least as sexual as men if not more. They're every bit as sexually adventurous as men. Wise men will take time and create comfortable environments for their wives to experience their sexual desires.

My fiancee was right when she told me that what separates her from most other women is she's open and honest about her sexuality. She's always been an extremely sexual woman. She always been sexually adventurous. Her sexually dysfunctional marriage has probably caused her to be open and honest about her sexuality. She thinks it's not normal for husbands and wives and committed couples to not discuss sex openly and honestly. I agree with her.

If I had to point to a single part of our relationship that makes it magical it would be our open, honest, and nonjudgmental sexual communication. My fiancee knows she can tell me anything. I've never judged her. I never will. I'll never violate her trust.
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My fiancee has a subconscious attraction to handsome, black, athletic men. She hasn't fucked a black dude since she was in college. I've caught her more than a few times checking out black dudes. She can't say why she has a black dude fantasy. She's had it for as long as she can remember.

I am going to get really assertive. There's a black guy who works out at my gym. He looks to be in his late 20s or early 30s. We shoot the shit when we work out at the same time. The dude is a stud. He's very well spoken, so I'm guessing he's a college graduate. He looks to be 6-4. He has a HUGE cock that my fiancee will love. Next time I see him I'm going to ask him if he wants to have a beer after working out. If he is cool, I'll arrange for my fiancee, him, and me to get together at a sports bar. If my fiancee likes him, I'll tell her to invite him back to my home and fuck his brains out. I'm 99% sure she'll do it.
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